Greatest fucking game of football you will ever see
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Tony*- I have no life
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Re: Greatest fucking game of football you will ever see
For goddesses' sakes..
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Boomlala wrote:Yet, they know what soccer is. No confusion.
You're proving my point exactly. (not the point about asSoc) You do not need to know word origins to define one word's ambiguity, seeing how soccer is a crystal clear word: if you say soccer, people will know exactly what you're thinking of. When you say football, it can depend on the culture they're in. Americans will think about American football. British people will think about soccer. Irishmen may even think about their Gaelic variant.
Thus word origin has no role in ambiguity. Only its definitions.
Yet another post in which you've completely failed to understand what's being spelled out for you.Word origination had nothing to do with their ambiguity, and I never said so. Let me try explaining it differently.
When you are describing something as ambiguous, you don't take the word/phrase in question and see how many different definitions/meanings it has, nor do you apply it directly to it's definitions. What you do, is take the word/phrase and apply it into it's situational use in order discern it's clarity. Hopefully that makes more sense for you.
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What you do, is take the word/phrase and apply it into it's situational use in order discern it's clarity.
1)
"Hey, Boyle, my fellow testosteron-fuelled high school jock buddy, let's play some FOOTBALL! And then watch some FOOTBALL! With beer!"
American Boyle: "Awesome, Gary, I'll be quarterback!" <takes egg-shaped ball and passes like Dan Marino>
English Boyle: "What a splendid idea, Gary, I'll be the keeper!" <takes keeper gloves>
2)
"Hey, Boyle, my fellow testosteron-fuelled high school jock buddy, let's play some SOCCER! And then watch some SOCCER! With beer!"
American Boyle: "Soccer? That's a lame ass sport!"
English Boyle: "What a splendid idea, Gary, I'll be the keeper!" <takes keeper gloves>
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My over-exaggerated, yet crystal clear situational description of what I mean.
In the first situation, we use football: the American will probably think about the American version with quarterbacks, wide receivers and running backs. The English person will think about soccer. In the second situation, both the American Boyle as the English Boyle know what is referred to: association football.
QED
Re: Greatest fucking game of football you will ever see
Haldir give up you lost bud...
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schh don't interrupt
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f u c k off Emi.
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Dem you're a cunt.
Burn.
Everyone thinks it, they just won't say it.
You never have anything positive to say, ever.
Burn.
Everyone thinks it, they just won't say it.
You never have anything positive to say, ever.
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Burn?Actually that felt really cold.
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Uh boom...no one in england says soccer...so your examples are fail.
And Dem ALWAYS needs someone to back him up in an argument or else he looks like a complete and utter twat.
And Dem ALWAYS needs someone to back him up in an argument or else he looks like a complete and utter twat.
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Uh boom...no one in england says soccer...so your examples are fail.
OFCOURSE, but complete besides the point. If you WOULD say soccer, people would understand you. Crystal clear.
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^ Never use a "would" in the same sentence with "if".
Anyway if you're American and go to England or the other way around I'm sure you'll get your point clear even though the other says "soccer" and the other "football".
Just define a bit more which one you mean by "football" and that's it.
Of course if you know you're going to have a discussion with an American person while being British yourself, or the the other way around, you'll certainly get to know some basic stuff first, like what this sport in question is called in that country. =P
Anyway if you're American and go to England or the other way around I'm sure you'll get your point clear even though the other says "soccer" and the other "football".
Just define a bit more which one you mean by "football" and that's it.
Of course if you know you're going to have a discussion with an American person while being British yourself, or the the other way around, you'll certainly get to know some basic stuff first, like what this sport in question is called in that country. =P
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True, but that doesn't change the fact one word is more ambiguous than the other, since football relies on the context wherein it is used, while soccer is always the same.
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Football gives me the impression of people playing ball with their feet. Soccer gives me the impression of a stupid word without meaning. That's how I see it, at least.
Also speaking of American Football, 'football' is a misleading word to discribe the sport since, according to my knowledge, the ball is kicked only when the game begins and in case of a free kick. Otherwise it's thrown around.
Thus, this sport is often called just "American" here.
Also speaking of American Football, 'football' is a misleading word to discribe the sport since, according to my knowledge, the ball is kicked only when the game begins and in case of a free kick. Otherwise it's thrown around.
Thus, this sport is often called just "American" here.
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Its also ran with your feet..
And you can kick the ball during a Field Goal Extra Point or Punt the ball...And after every Touchdown
And you can kick the ball during a Field Goal Extra Point or Punt the ball...And after every Touchdown
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still.....for Fagman.....football stay's in England.....and there football.......I think that "football' should be called american football by all peeps....so it wouldn't be fights.....honestly I don't care
we hungarians just say foci amen to that!
we hungarians just say foci amen to that!
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Like I said your comebacks suck..
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woot ever!
I didn't have the intention of picking a fight here so chill.....just go to nonsense please!
I didn't have the intention of picking a fight here so chill.....just go to nonsense please!
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Football gives me the impression of people playing ball with their feet. Soccer gives me the impression of a stupid word without meaning. That's how I see it, at least.
True, but that doesn't have anything to do with ambiguity. When I say soccer, you instantly know what I'm talking about, so you don't need to know where the word comes from.
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Boomlala wrote:Football gives me the impression of people playing ball with their feet. Soccer gives me the impression of a stupid word without meaning. That's how I see it, at least.
True, but that doesn't have anything to do with ambiguity.
LOL! YES IT DOES! Christ, your thick head cannot wrap around what people are smacking you in the face with if your life depended upon it.
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