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Post by Boomlala Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:49 pm

Americans believe that:

Public schools should teach evolution only: 20%
Only evolution (not religious explanations) should be taught in science classes: 17%
Creationism should be discussed in science class as a 'belief,' not a scientific theory: 29%
Creationism and evolution should be taught as 'scientific theories' in science class: 13%
Only Creationism should be taught: 16%

Source: http://media.pfaw.org/pdf/creationism/creationism-poll.pdf

16% fucking percent says that evolution should be ignored. Now that's goddamn bullshit.
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Post by C.O.L.I.N. Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:36 am

ok chill >.>
and dont forget that many r quite religious there so it doesnt surprise me much.. i would expect 5-20% on a poll like that
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Post by *Hule* Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:22 am

Americans..
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Post by Kung-Pow Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:43 am

Americans get confused easy. its a FACT
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Post by lone Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:17 am

why would you believe in something that you don't want to understand instead of just accepting the logical explanation?

The existence of an afterlife or a god is easily proven bullshit

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Post by cobRa Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:21 am

why even bother about this boomlala
your just making yourself look like a faggot

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Post by Kung-Pow Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:22 am

lone wrote:The existence of an afterlife or a god is easily proven bullshit

if its easy to prove there is existence of an afterlife or not, how come we haven't came up with something?
its the theory of evolution vs religion.
never ending fight, untill you die.

bigbang vs 7days of creation


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Post by Boomlala Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:23 am

cobRa wrote:why even bother about this boomlala
your just making yourself look like a faggot

This is nonsense forum.

Hence I post nonsense (or at least less-sensical threads nobody cares about).
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Post by lone Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:47 am

Kung-Pow wrote:
lone wrote:The existence of an afterlife or a god is easily proven bullshit

if its easy to prove there is existence of an afterlife or not, how come we haven't came up with something?
its the theory of evolution vs religion.
never ending fight, untill you die.

bigbang vs 7days of creation

It can be proven with logic, but the problem is religious people don't (want to) believe in logical stuff.
All of this so called 'inexplainable stuff' has way more logic (often theoretical) explanations then some GOD doing shit.

If god made the universe, who the fuck made god?
Religious people transfer things they do not understand (due to stupidity, mistrust in theories, etc) to something they don't want to understand. Easy exit.


Everything can be explained more logicaly without using god in it. Ergo: why would you believe in a god then?

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Post by *Hule* Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:53 am

I love these convos. People try to prove theirselves right but the only thing they do is fail. Concerning these matters you can only tell your opinion and give reasons for it, but you just can't tell it as the fact. Razz

This is how I see this:
I couldn't care less about afterlife. We don't know this life properly so why bother taking pressure of what MIGHT be after it.
It it's there it's there, if not then not.

God/religious stuff can't be proven true, but neither can they be proven false. If so could be done it would've been done ages ago.
None of you have studied that stuff enough to even back your opinions up properly.

So just concentrate on this life and make the best of it. If preparing for the afterlife makes you happy, then go ahead and do it.
If total denial of such things makes you happy, no-one is there to stop you.
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Post by Boomlala Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:32 pm

I still think teaching creationism instead of evolution shouldn't happen.
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Post by lone Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:49 pm

*Hule* wrote:I love these convos. People try to prove theirselves right but the only thing they do is fail. Concerning these matters you can only tell your opinion and give reasons for it, but you just can't tell it as the fact. Razz

This is how I see this:
I couldn't care less about afterlife. We don't know this life properly so why bother taking pressure of what MIGHT be after it.
It it's there it's there, if not then not.

God/religious stuff can't be proven true, but neither can they be proven false. If so could be done it would've been done ages ago.
None of you have studied that stuff enough to even back your opinions up properly.

So just concentrate on this life and make the best of it. If preparing for the afterlife makes you happy, then go ahead and do it.
If total denial of such things makes you happy, no-one is there to stop you.
you're not listening; it can be proven false. But people don't want to hear it.
I know guys whom can't accept god and an afterlife doesn't exist because they say their life would be useless then.
w/e
Discussions like this hardly ever lead to something good. One believes not what he thinks is right but what he wants to believe; it's subconscious.
Let's burry it

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Post by *Hule* Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:56 pm

Fine by me, I don't care anyways. Call me a agnostic. Razz

Though, I'd very much like to see that provement of religiouns/god being false. I haven't seen one proving it to be true, and I don't think there will be one proving it to be false either.
I'd call religions and god matters that escape definition, so it's quite hard to prove them to any direction.

I don't even know why people care about this stuff so much. =P
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Post by Huni Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:10 pm

God=our life. KTHXBAI. nao lock this shit.
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Post by Xris² Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:16 pm

wuts a god
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Post by Banaan Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:35 pm

"Banaan weeps for the last normal americans who died in WWII, cause america has been filled with retards eversince"
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Post by lone Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:22 am

I care about this shit because religion is just an other form of nationalism. (leading to racism)
Even though they all fuck around about the same idea.
But yet they find people of other religions inferior. wich leads to wars, racism and hatred.
A whole lotta wars wouldn't've been fought if everyone would've stopped and thinked the whole thing through.
TBH a long time ago I was christian. Then I realised I thought the same thing as all other religions being that science can't explain everything. I also realised that there was no way to be in the good religion: because noone can know and religions are just old ways to keep a people under control. So I gave up Christianity.
One day some dude explained to me all the things that I thought science couldn't explain; all the things I used to call a god or guiding force for.
I loled and accepted that everything is science. If something exists it can be researched, seen, heard, noticed, ...
So why would you call upon a god?

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Post by Boomlala Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:10 am

lone wrote:I care about this shit because religion is just an other form of nationalism. (leading to racism)
Even though they all fuck around about the same idea.
But yet they find people of other religions inferior. wich leads to wars, racism and hatred.
A whole lotta wars wouldn't've been fought if everyone would've stopped and thinked the whole thing through.
TBH a long time ago I was christian. Then I realised I thought the same thing as all other religions being that science can't explain everything. I also realised that there was no way to be in the good religion: because noone can know and religions are just old ways to keep a people under control. So I gave up Christianity.
One day some dude explained to me all the things that I thought science couldn't explain; all the things I used to call a god or guiding force for.
I loled and accepted that everything is science. If something exists it can be researched, seen, heard, noticed, ...
So why would you call upon a god?

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Post by *Hule* Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:47 am

I think strong beliefs in both ends of the matter are equally unwise.

Personally I don't take religion that seriously. I rarely go to church, I never pray or anything. The only thing I do is singing Christmas songs during the holidays.
But I feel no need leaving Christianity, it doesn't do any harm to me. Besides, even if I left, my thinking, acting, all that stuff would be influenced by Christianity. That's 'cause the whole culture here, and in many other places, is Christian. The same goes with other religions, too.

I don't believe blindly in that stuff really, 'cause it would bring me only restrictions and stuff. But neither do I deny it, because it all just might be out there.
It doesn't really matter that much to me.

Still I wouldn't call religions unimportant. Not 'cause I'd support them, but because of how much they have affected people's lives and what they have caused in the history. Pretty major stuff tbh. Razz
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Post by Boomlala Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:00 am

A lot of it bad stuff.
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Post by lone Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:21 pm

Religions've done more bad than good rly

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Post by Xris² Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:24 pm

Take the WTC, for example.
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Post by lone Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:26 pm

the crusades, Israel/Palestina, the Shoah, ...
There's thousends of examples really

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Post by Kung-Pow Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:35 pm

lone wrote:
you're not listening; it can be proven false. But people don't want to hear it.

the evolution/big bang are just theory's..
there is about as much hard evidence that god exists than them theory's

as for "who created god"

thats the thing with humans, we cant imagine the un-created, something that was always there..
if you close your eye's and try to think of nothing, your'll always see something.

but as for the big bang, ' how did that one particle get there..? '
exactly the same as 'how did god get there'
nobody can prove it.
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Post by Tony* Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:43 pm

and nobody shall ever know, if you think about it too much you'll get as crazy as Jim Carrey in 23.
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